Hello, Sneakers! This week the exciting three of the same numbers in a row episode! (We won’t see another one like it for 111 more episodes.) Ian honours this episode’s number with a discussion of the classic TV show Room 222. Don’t care? Don’t worry. Dave hasn’t seen it either. Speaking of 222, Ian doesn’t like even numbers; Dave has a lot to say about horse’s feet; Ian lives under howlin’ dogs; Ian and Dave both enjoy burgers – I think we all know that; Ian has found a contender to stand up against Donald Trump – and, no, it’s not Dave; we establish Ian is a homophobe – Dave is a condescending hetero; Ian could have gone to prison as a seven year-old; they take the Bible challenge; Ian gets sucker punched by Zack Snyder; Dave sticks up for the little films; Ian is tired of movies and only wants TV series; and speaking of films, Ian and Dave close out the show with a discussion of the movies Teen Lust, The House of the Devil and some of the best coming of age movies.
Do you have a favourite coming of age movie? We’re especially interested in the films that fall outside of the cliché of the trophy girlfriend. Dave would also prefer films that don’t require characters to conform to the cultural mainstream to appeal to the ladies (à la the disappointing The 40 Year-Old Virgin) (we know this is a minority opinion).
Thanks for listening.
Ian’s heartthrob:
Once again, if you can find it, Dave recommends the above average coming of age, teenage sex shenanigans film Teen Lust:
If you enjoy smart horror films, Dave also recommends The House of the Devil:
And the three coming of age films mentioned by Ian and Dave (Also, movie trailers for the 80’s sucked!):
Gregory’s Girl
The Sure Thing
Real Genus (directed by Martha Coolidge, which could explain the strong female character, but not why she is never mentioned in the trailer)
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I was a bit leery about the GHOSTBUSTERS trailer, because it looked very CGI and underwhelming. The Black character being the only non-scientist was also worrisome.
Zack Snyder- I enjoyed 300 for the sweaty shirtless men and the homoeroticism. I enjoyed WATCHMEN for the opening credits. I have not enjoyed anything else he’s done. I think BATMAN VS SUPERMAN will suck, as it seems to be entirely fixated on the idea that OMG SUPERMAN IS SO POWERFUL HE COULD KILL US ALL! But he won’t considering that *he’s the fucking good guy*.
I loved THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT. Very creepy and understated. I hated the sequel. BWP had no sex, no violence, no blood and no onscreen monsters. Along comes BOOK OF SHADOWS and it’s non-stop sex, violence, gore and the first thing they show us is a picture of Elly Kedward. BOO. BOO I SAYS.
I enjoyed Horsetalk. Fascinating. A lot more than the irritating Bibletalk, which I just fast forward through every time.
Coming Of Age Movies- I came of age in an era when Coming of Age Movies were almost always throwing around the Gay-F word more often than bras, so I’m going to have to say that my favourite one would have to be AMERICAN PIE, which didn’t.
Okay, so that’s one vote for Talking Ourselves Horse to be our next spin-off podcast.
I watched a bit of the original Teen Wolf film the other day. The casual homophobia in that was pretty stunning.
I don’t remember Real Genius having anything like that in it, I’ll have to watch it again.
Real Genius doesn’t have any homophobia in it at all, and the sexism is, as you say, minor for the time and balanced by the Jordan character, every bit the equal of the boys and essential to their crazy master plan.
Gregory’s Girl had a great ending. Apparently John Hughes’ Pretty In Pink (1986) was supposed to have a similar ending until the studio’s test audiences said they wanted Molly Ringwald’s character to end up with the rich guy so they reshot the ending. (But the novelization which was already printed still ends the other way). At least Hughes stuck to his guns with Some Kind of Wonderful (1887), and Eric Stoltz’s character got to end up with the girl who actually loved with him.
For a more dramatic 80’s coming of age movie, Mystic Pizza (1988) is pretty tasty. It featured break-out performances Julia Roberts, Lili Taylor and Annabeth Gish.
I also have a soft spot for coming of age teen comedies that are based on classical literature.
Just One of the Guys (1985): Shakespeare’s Twelfth Night
Clueless (1995): Jane Austen’s Emma (Alicia Silverstone, Paul Rudd)
10 Things I Hate About You (1999): Shakespeare’s The Taming of the Shrew (Julia Stiles, Heath Ledger)
She’s the Man (2006): Twelfth Night again (Amanda Bynes, Channing Tatum)
From Prada to Nada (2011) Jane Austen’s Sense and Sensibility (Camilla Belle, Alexa Vega)
I forgot to mention Cruel Intensions (1999) based on De Laclos’ novel Les Liasons Dangereuses. They are apparently spinning it off into a “next generation” TV series with Sarah Michelle Gellar reprising her role from the movie. Personally, I’d rather see her play Buffy again. She could deal with terrifying stuff like some megalomaniac with bad hair trying to take over the White House.
Correction: Some Kind of Wonderful was 1987, not 1887!
The USA had a virtual monopoly on Helium, during the Zeppelin era. The had several Zeppelins if their own such as the Akron, the Macon, and the Shenandoah. All of these Zeppelins ended badly. The logistics of having an extremely large lighter-than-air aircraft, in a sky prone to storms and turbulence proved to be less than feasible.
There is talk of reviving Zeppelins with current day technology, but they are all slated to be significantly smaller..
Ian was a fan of The Real Ghostbusters when he was a kid. If my math is right, Ian is 35.
That sounds about right to me.
Let’s watch one…
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3m380u_real-ghostbusters-season-1-episode-8-when-halloween-was-forever-part-1-2_shortfilms
I’m surprised “Teen Lust is out there in some form and I highly recommend it to people” wasn’t isolated for the cold opening.
Good note for when we re-master all these episodes into our “special editions”.
I guess since David edits these, it’s usually you who gets the incriminating out-of-context cold opening.
I vote alternating between Horsing Around and Gettin’ Biblical every couple of weeks. Speaking of horses, the Royal Manitoba Winter Fair is coming up here in my neck of the woods and I was wondering if David would recommend equine shows for people who may not be all that into horses (But I enjoy hearing about them!), or if I should stick with the SuperDogs and Fiddler Jamboree.
This episode should have been called two lesbian have an argument about public vs private property and the judge gets it wrong. But that’s not very pithy I guess.
I don’t ever remember what we talked about and I don’t usually like to listen to our shows, but this strange comment almost makes me want to hear this episode again.