Hola, Sneakers! Welcome to Episode 498 of the world’s first all-male podcast!
This week: in the Ikea maze; Callax: don’t do it; Body Double; kinky de Palma; Hollywood doubles; quintuples; octuples; reality broods; the Ben Vereen rundown; the transparent man; big Sarah Silverman fan; funny people lifespans; decimalate; the importance of being in earnest; The Paragon of Comedy; superhuman prince; Dave blames Larry Graham; Sparks vs Sparks!; pardon the interruption; the 3-hour sleep plan; Question of the Week – Sneakers respond; cup of nonsense; mortification; stodgy train; who gives a shit; sexy Ghostbusters; birds of a feather attract opposites; secrets of the library; and, finally, we’re not your boss.
Question of the week: What movie has a great scene it, but is not a great movie?
Sub-question: Name your own piece of Ikea furniture.
Here is the wonderful song that Chris Roberts wrote to celebrate Sneaky Dragon Listening Party. Please check it out. It’s really great!
Here is the The Paragon of Comedy that Ian recommended during the show:
Sonny versus Cher versus David Letterman (the segment begins around 34:00 minutes in):
Endlessly talented people. Ben Vereen entertains:
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Love Chris’ song! Awesome.
Also, I would call an Ikea shelf Shelli.
That makes me very happy – thanks, Lezah!
My piece of Ikea furniture would be the KORDI – a box with openings in it that sits on the floor of your home office or entertainment centre in which you put all the coiled-up cables and power cords connected to your computer, monitor, scanner, router, TV, PVR, DVD player, etc. so they don’t get as dusty. A real piece of Ikea furniture that I enjoy is my HEMNES nightstand. It’s a very small table just the right size for a book, a reading lamp and your glasses. It has a lower shelf that’s good for a Kleenex box and a small drawer for your journal and a flashlight.
Thanks for the song, Chris. What great producktion values! I loved the (augmented?) chord at the end.
Thank you, Louise! You were on my mind when I quoted Shakespeare in the first verse. The chord at the end is F-something-or-other. I was going for a sixth, like the end of She Loves You, but probably missed the target… 🙂
So-so movies with a great scene? It pains me slightly to say this as I love and respect these filmmakers, but Edgar Wright’s Baby Driver and the Coens’ Hail Caesar! come to mind. To be fair, both movie have not just one, but several scenes that are great – especially the opening of Baby Driver and the dancing sailors and everything with Arden Ehrenreich in Hail Caesar!. But in each case, the whole movie was somehow less than the sum of its parts.
Hi,
Too much free time on my hands, this week too…
Can’t help myself noticing that you seems to like to have your credits rolled more and more late into the show.
So I got a question : Did you know movies with the opening title is at the end ?
Late title sequences have became a thing, in movies and series.
Deep into of the movie, after, say, half an hour, as you already forgotten that you didn’t see the tittle, it suddently pops, stopping the narrative, so the movie can switch to another part of the story after, creating surprise, expectation and suspense. Sneaky!
Then your brain click “the movie hadn’t started yet!!! Woohoo! This movie is a bargain, that’s nearly 20% free content….”
Brains are jerks.
Back in the days, films where beginning with the title and all the credits, the actors, the director, the producer, its brother in law, its wife and maybe a few technicians, say the guy who switch the lights on.
And at the end, The End, then blinding lights, snap back to reality, ope there goes gravity. As they say.
Now, at the end, you’ve got 20% more free content, with a huge credit sequence listing everybody down to the second assistant of the sandwich maker for the actor who played 30s in scene 17…
Fun fact, 53% of all the credits are for the FX stuff and teams.
When I was young during a school trip to the cinema (it was “l’avare” avec Louis de Funes) , at the end of the film as we where starting to fight each other back, the teacher explained to us that we had to wait to the end of the credits to pay respects to all the people who work hard to make the film possible.
It was in the 80’s, film credits were shorter, the FX staffs were 3 guys, when they were such a thing. But you’ve got one stunt man. I remember it was Remy Julienne.
Nowadays to make watchers pay respects and not leaving before getting their free end content, you need to add more free content at the end of the end. In the form of a 15s scene where you reveal who was the real murderer.
For the week questions… Are you police? I will only answer the sub question without my lawyer.
So It seems that each Ikea name refer to one quality of the product, so I got a name to rules them all : Fükdisshit or maybe Verdidaïmissästep.
Hail to the dragon.
I want to lead off by thanking Chris Roberts for his wonderful tribute to Listening Party! Chris wrote me asking for my permission to use the Peanut Duck art which I sent to him to use in the video. I’m flattered to be represented in such a well deserved tribute to Mary and David, the podcast may be at an end but all the music and memories live on. I’ll echo this sentiment over on the Listening Party page also, it’s been a great run and deserving of thanks from all of us.
I know you guys have never been fully immersed in Star Trek but you really don’t have to be to know that “Star Trek V The Final Frontier” was the low spot in the film run. Nimoy handed the directing reins over to Shatner with less than spectacular results. The special effects were mediocre and the production value suffered visually along with a weak story. Whereas the costars were treated as part of the team (or crew) before Star Trek V, they were now pushed into the background as the story favored the triumvirate of Kirk, Spock and McCoy heavily.
I can’t come down too hard on Star Trek V because as a Trekkie, I still have an unconditional affection for it, particularly the scenes with the Kirk, Spock and McCoy dynamic. That’s where Shatner excelled with this film, if anything worked under his direction it was how these three characters worked off one another. It’s the one redeeming factor of Star Trek V and it makes for some great scenes.
The renegade Vulcan and half brother of Spock, Sybok, has taken over the Enterprise by use of his “mind control” or conditioning of the crew through the illusion of dismissing their greatest personal pains. Kirk, Spock and McCoy go to a room at what seems to be the furthermost front of the ship to send a distress call. It’s a dark room with an enormous antique ship wheel like you’d see on a 19th century sailing ship. Sybok enters and proceeds to use his “powers” on the three. He starts with McCoy and a scene is shown from McCoy’s past. It’s shown as if it’s being lit from the corner of the room almost as if it was lit onstage. The scene is McCoy’s dying Father who he can’t save, so McCoy grants his Father’s wish and euthanizes him and only after realizing that a cure for his Father’s illness was discovered shortly after his death. It’s McCoy’s greatest personal pain and it’s now shared with Kirk and Spock. Sybok then does the same with his own Brother Spock and shows the room Spock’s greatest pain, his birth on the planet Vulcan. Being half human, Spock’s own Father Sarek holds the infant Spock for the first time and in disgust says, “He’s so….human.” This doesn’t appear to affect the emotionless Spock but Kirk is astonished to learn these painful events of his friend’s lives, Kirk then confesses to Sybok he had no idea any of this about his two closest friends. Sybok then tries to do the same to Kirk but Kirk refuses and admits he needs his pain to make him who he is and it won’t be put on display. Sybok tells Kirk his mission is to take the Enterprise through “The Great Barrier” ahead and that God awaits him on the other side. Sybok leaves the Kirk, Spock and McCoy imprisoned in the emergency transmission room and returns to the bridge. As they approach the Great Barrier, Kirk realizes his purpose and ambition of exploration as he Spock and McCoy stand around the giant antique ship wheel at the front of the ship. The camera pans down to an old brass plaque on the ship wheel that says, “TO BOLDLY GO WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE” as we hear the classic Star Trek theme.
This scene is powerful and succinctly reveals through discovery, the relationship these three have for one another as well as their purpose. It may be one of the greatest Star Trek scenes of all time and it’s stuck firmly inside one of the lesser productions of the franchise. If Shatner did anything right, it was how he handled the bond shared between Kirk, Spock and McCoy.
We have a local IKEA that I’ll only go to on a weekday because the place is a goddamned zoo on the weekends. I’d personally design a drawing table and call it EDDIE. The table could be worn on one’s back for transit giving them the freedom of unfold the table and draw anywhere, anytime….which is usually the case. If the EDDIE had a secondary feature I’d want a design that also converted into a rollout mattress so one could immediately use it to sleep on which is also the case needed after drawing. I’d sell it assembled in a big box because artists detest putting shit together from IKEA, we just want it ready to use!
I also wanted to address something I’ve noticed in Ian over the last month or two because I do care about the well-being and health of our Sneaky Dragon founders. In comparison to the last year’s time Ian, you sound remarkably better in spirit. I know the pandemic has affected many in ways we didn’t expect but you seem to be coming out of the storm so to speak. You sound healthier and funnier with each new podcast, you’ve had me laughing more now that you have in a long time. You notice these things when you listen to someone every week so when I found myself laughing along with you over the last month or two, that was enough for me to know you’re pulling through this. It’s a good thing to hear, a healthy Ian Boothby is a funny Ian Boothby!