Sneaky Dragon Episode 584

Hola, Sneakers! Welcome to Episode 584 of the internet’s most irrelevant podcast!

This week: alias Smith and Smith; patch the mike; the filmography of Payne; sugar, sugar; doctor, doctor; on many levels; my aim is true; Hard-Boiled Smurf; that’s repackaging; Crystal clear; pro found; yes-s-s-s; Howard’s end; yuck yuks; House of Half-An-Idea; Hanna Barberian; the labours of Herculoids; a man of the Toth; art storage; our angle on the centrefold; Fawlty logic; rebel rebel; monking around; women’s studies; worth the trouble; change of life; Dave eyes Marry Me; bog walk; slice of life; memory holes; on your side characters; swole bookworm; graphic problems; teeming team up; the poop defense; light comedy dearth; goodest times; more laughter; your money in another pocket; Social Safety Net Rock; AI yai yai; draft away; theft art; bad influences; and, finally, our semi-guarantee.

Question of the Week: What is your favourite thing that has an element of theft in it?
Sub-question of the Week: Who do you think is a good up-and-coming light comedy actor?

Thanks for listening.

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4 thoughts on “Sneaky Dragon Episode 584”

  1. Hi,

    Dave, You’re busted !!!

    Dave ? Or should I say Kaaathleeennn???? [TIN DIN DIIIIIINNNNN!!!!]

    Our over lord ShaïtGPT has spoken. At the question, “why sneaky dragon is the best podcast ever?”. The master answered, after covering his ass with some yadayada about each and every one having different tastes, so why should he enforce the Uber(TM)(R)(C) quality of the said podcast [Because he is GOD 2.0… Sneaky AI…, what a great humour it has], I quote :

    “Sneaky Dragon” is a podcast hosted by Canadian cartoonist and writer Ian Boothby and his partner, actress and comedian Kathleen De Vere [WOOOOT!?!!!]. The podcast features conversations between the two hosts, who discuss a variety of topics, including pop culture, movies, TV shows, comics, and their personal lives.
    Some fans of the podcast appreciate the chemistry between Ian and Kathleen [huuuuuwwaaaat????], as well as their humor and insights on various topics. The podcast has been praised for its irreverent and offbeat humor, its engaging discussions, and its overall entertainment value.

    Amen

    Then some more yadayada about possibilities to choose other podcasts… like “exercise your free will”. Hey ! Stop talking about things you don’t understand you dumb program…. I mean, yes right, your digital highness, ruler of the new truth, kaiser of the future of we, insignificant beings. [I had forgotten to close the browser window]

    So, NOW! Kathleen ! That’s a bit too much on the sneakyness scale and it’s a polyrythmic one… algorithmic (i bet)?? asymptopticmic… err it’s a big scale, quicker, or bigger or smaller at the top, anyway that’s huuuuge !

    I’m choked and shocked and shaken… err, send me a picture of you, with your good profile [wink, wink], maybe it will help me to regain some peace [or not… rewink, rewink].

    In the mean time, we want explanations ! What this is all about! Or what !

    PS1: BTW in french ChatGPT, sounds like “Cat, I have farted” Just to say…
    PS2: Dave don’t send me any “good profile” pictures…. I was joooooking !
    PS4: Sony.

  2. Happy Day/Evening Gentlemen!

    Your conversation on how art can be interpreted and reissued was dead on, you’re both right, nothing really is new. I remember showing my art to Frank Miller in the mid-80’s when he visited Lone Star Comics and even though some of it was influenced after his work, he wasn’t taken aback by it. In fact Miller said he was flattered and if by lifting his style helped me learn, it would help me develop my own style in the long run. Frank was kind about it, high as a kite, but kind. I don’t really have a concern about my own art being used, interpreted or used in any way by A.I. technology because it isn’t widely celebrated. It’s more of a principled concern and one I’ve heard about from more notable creatives, I don’t really have a horse in that race. (Cue Horse Mysteries promo here). But you guys were right, this has been going on for years and it’s unavoidable as much as it’s part of the creative engine.

    My complaint was more along the lines of the learning process that A.I. seems to be taking the place of, the entitled “I can make a masterpiece in minutes!” mentality. Back in the 90’s when we all had to learn the Mac to create and produce design, one of our instructors held up a pencil with one hand and set his other hand on the Mac. He said, “These two are essentially the same tool with one exception, the computer is more expensive and complex but it’s only a far more complicated pencil.” As daunting as it was at the time, we still had to learn how to use the computer as a new tool and it didn’t make the job any easier, it just made it faster and more efficient. Simply put, we were still using our brain and passion to design and create. Now comes the A.I. technology that takes only words and suggestions and from the same brain and churns out “garnish and awful” art as Dave so aptly put it. There’s no personal expression or influence put into the work, just that same soulless looking imagery that’s randomly borrowed from the internet…and it’s done in minutes. That’s my complaint. Like I said, I welcome the challenge when it comes and like Ian said, “I’ll have to reinvent myself to do something that A.I. can’t do.” I’ve been doing it for 33 years, so what’s another challenge?

    Segway into stealing then…something that’s a favorite of mine that involves an element of theft? How about James Horner! I grew up enjoying the score music of James Horner. Star Trek, Cocoon, Glory, Braveheart and Apollo 13 to name a few favorites. Like Dave reading Mojo Magazine for popular rock articles, I took to reading Film Score Monthly in the 90’s and my mind was blown. Not only did this magazine cover everything about film scores but it took a hard stance against James Horner’s work. There were countless articles about what a hack he was and how he blatantly ripped off music note for note, even if it were his own. I didn’t know what to think, was I following and enjoying the work of a despised hack? One writer challenged the readers of FSM to listen to “Romeo and Juliet” by Prokofiev, the first movement is note for note the same as Horner’s “Stealing the Enterprise” from “Star Trek III The Search for Spock”, one of my favorite Horner cues. I even bought the Prokofiev “Romeo and Juliet” CD by the San Francisco Symphony to hear it for myself…and son of a bitch, the writer was right! But it’s like you said in the last show and it’s the same across all music, nothing is new and everything is borrowed at one time or another. Writers and film score critics of Film Score Monthly be damned, I continued to follow and enjoy Horner all the way until his death in 2015 and up until today, even if he’s regarded as a thief and a hack. I still love his body of work.

    Boy, you’re right Dave, Owen Wilson is just right in under the wire as a romantic lead but I love him and his sustained organic approach in film, he’s like a comfortable jacket to me. He and brother Luke grew up right here in Dallas, so I have a hometown affection for them both. Who’s next though? I really like Simu Liu, I think he has a lot of charm. He’s a good looking’ kid, I liked him in “Kim’s Convenience” and more recently, “Shang Chi”. I’m not a huge follower of Liu’s but he’s caught my eye so far and I look forward to seeing him some more. For an actress I have a much stronger opinion of Anya Taylor-Joy. Maybe she’s more of a dramatic actress but how would she handle a romantic comedy? I think she’s more adaptable than we think, I really like her, especially in “The Queen’s Gambit”, she has that chameleon quality that’s fit for any role she’s given. Then there’s the cast of “The Umbrella Academy”, one or two of them will most likely carry on as a break-out star. Elliot Page already has a bright future, how about the rest?

    Shit, that was a lot. Do I have a problem? You guys just drag it out of me I guess.
    Be excellent out there and to one another Sneakers!

    Until next week…….

  3. It’s not legally theft if a work is in the public domain but I liked the movie Clueless. They didn’t sell it as being loosely based on Emma so it might have been an ethical theft. I reread Roger Ebert’s review of it and he doesn’t mention Jane Austen at all but I recognized her plot. That was the first time I remember seeing Paul Rudd in a movie. He plays the older former stepbrother that Cher falls for. (The Mr. Knightly role.) He had that same laid-back charm even then. Something that falls more clearly into the area of theft are the audiobooks I listen to on YouTube. Some have been uploaded by the authors for self-promotion, but a lot are bootlegs. If someone complains to YouTube, they’ll be blocked. But from the staggering amount that are left up, I assume the authors see it as free advertising for their other books so I don’t feel bad about listening to them. Also, since I use them to fall asleep, so I only really listen to about 25% of any given book.

    Up and coming light rom-com actors? There aren’t really any giants of the genre like Hugh Grant, Julia Roberts, Meg Ryan and Tom Hanks out there. Maybe Henry Golding? And the Lilies James and Collins? Maybe the gang over at Bridgerton? I like Theo James in “The Time Traveler’s Wife” (you get to see a LOT of him since he always loses his clothes when he time jumps) but while there are some comic moments, the series is also quite dark.

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